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Revealing Hidden Dynamics in Technology

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Episode 5
May 23, 2024
00:49:20
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Although we interact with technology seemingly endlessly, we don’t often consider what kinds of biases technology both reflects back to humans, but also exacerbates by its very nature as dumb code. On this episode of R&D with D&D, Dave and Denise chat with Prof. Mar Hicks of the University of Virginia’s School of Data Science. Mar’s work focuses on, as they describe it, “the history of computing, labor, technology, and queer science and technology studies” and “how gender and sexuality bring hidden technological dynamics to light.” In this far-ranging discussion, we discuss the use of female voices by a variety of apps, ethical AI, how technology can eliminate certain jobs, and how we can influence technology to act in socially beneficial, or socially harmful, ways. We end our discussion, as always, with our (common law) trademarked speed round questions!

“What happens when automated systems come in, is that very often, the idea is not to displace workers entirely, but to displace workers who are either high paid, or unionized. And one of the tricks has always been, let’s bring in women and/or children to do that work, and now one of the tricks is, let’s bring in automated women to do that work.”  — Mar Hicks

“In the past the man has been first; in the future the system must be first.” — Frederick W. Taylor, The Principles of Scientific Management (1911)

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Mar Hicks

Mar Hicks is an author, historian, and professor doing research on hidden histories of computing, as well as the history of labor and technology. Hicks is currently an Associate Professor at The University of Virginia's School of Data Science, in Charlottesville, teaching courses on the history of technology, computing and society, and the larger implications of powerful and widespread digital infrastructures. Their research focuses on how gender and sexuality bring hidden technological dynamics to light, and how the experiences of women and LGBTQIA people change the core narratives of the history of computing in unexpected ways. Hicks's multiple award-winning book, Programmed Inequality, looks at how the British lost their early lead in computing by discarding women computer workers, and what this cautionary tale tells us about current issues in high tech. Their new work looks at resistance and queerness in the history of technology. Hicks is also co-editor of the book Your Computer Is On Fire (MIT Press, 2021), a volume of essays about how we can begin to fix our broken high tech infrastructures.
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DENISE HOWELL

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Denise is a podcasting industry original and veteran blogger. She has co-hosted Triangulation, conversations with the smartest people in the world about the most important topics in technology, and has been contributing on Leo Laporte’s TWiT Network for 17 years. Having been credited with coining the term “blawg,” she has blogged on CBS Interactive and is a technology lawyer (Berkeley Law, ’90), advising corporate and individual clients on issues at the intersection of emerging technologies and the law.

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DAVID LEVINE

Dave Levine is the founder and host of Hearsay Culture. He is a Professor at Elon University School of Law and an Affiliate Scholar at the Center for Internet and Society (Stanford Law School). From 2014-2017, he was a Visiting Research Collaborator at Princeton University’s Center for Information Technology Policy. He is also the co-author of Information Law, Governance, and Cybersecurity (West 2019). A regular contributor to Slate, Dave has been published in leading newspapers, websites, and academic journals in the US and EU.

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